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KATHRYN MCCAMANT (CO- DESIGNER, FIRST U.S. COHOUSING COMMUNITY): When weโre living alone, and now more and more people are working remotely alone, weโre not even brushing up against people anymore.
ARCHIVAL (NBC, 5-2-23):
NEWS REPORT: The growing epidemic sweeping the nation that some doctors say is as bad for you as smoking.ย
KATHRYN MCCAMANT: Why is loneliness and social isolation such a problem today? Weโve really designed community right out of our lives.
ARCHIVAL (NBC, 5-2-23):
NEWS REPORT: More and more people are missing that connection.
KATHRYN MCCAMANT: Relationships is what gives life meaning.
ARCHIVAL (NBC, 5-2-23):
NEWS ANCHOR: So youโre saying loneliness is comparable in terms of a detriment to your health?
DR. VIVEK MURTHY (U.S. SURGEON GENERAL): Yes.
TEXT ON SCREEN:
Nevada City Cohousing
Nevada City, Calif.
KATHRYN MCCAMANT (SPEAKING TO ANDREW FITANIDES AND HIS CHILD IN THE COHOUSING GARDEN): Yeah, check that out. Huh. You can learn so much from children.
ANDREW FITANIDES: Now, one for Mama. I tried.
HELEN FITANIDES: We have been here โ itโll be coming up on three years. Before moving here, I mean, we had a pretty typical setup at home. We didnโt really know our neighbors. Our community was through work or through activities, but not a lot of neighborhood connections going on. Almost none.
ANDREW FITANIDES: We shared dinner at each otherโs houses a couple of times, but it didnโt go anywhere because we all had the expectation that our lives were separate.
HELEN FITANIDES: Yeah, I think itโs hard to make community happen when you have the single-family home setup, like the expectations of that kind of neighborhood.
KATHRYN MCCAMANT: I got interested in cohousing originally because I saw it as a solution to my life. I was an architecture student in Denmark looking at โย how do you have a family and a kid and a profession? And I just โย the old models werenโt working. So as part of our classโs study of housing types, we visited a number of cohousing communities, and I was like, wow, this seems, like, so reasonable. The physical design is really something that you could duplicate pretty easily. The cars are at the periphery, and then you walk in. And the spaces between the houses are people-oriented: theyโre gardens, kids are playing, youโre talking to neighbors.
The turning point for me was realizing that the Danish model was something that could be adapted to the United States because, for better or worse, itโs a home ownership model. We didnโt have to change American policy. We didnโt have to create a new federal housing program. It was people coming together, building villages. Itโs like, well, we could do that.
KATHRYN MCCAMANTโS NEIGHBOR (IN THE COHOUSING GARDEN): Taking out the trash.
KATHRYN MCCAMANT (SPEAKING TO THE NEIGHBORโS CHILD): Yeah, hey you found a โ
KATHRYN MCCAMANT:ย So we really manage the community, right? We donโt have a property manager. Weโre doing it. Weโre actually creating that space in between, where people run into each other. And it really is true that community happens on the pathways. All sorts of magical things happen out there.
ANDREW FITANIDES: Itโs like community living, but very palatable to like my American upbringing, where we each have our own kitchens and our own houses and thereโs no cars on the inside and everybody lives right next to each other, but not too close. Itโs just a perfect fit for me.
ANDREW FITANIDES (SPEAKING TO HIS DAUGHTER IN THE GARDEN): Ah, oh, so high. It looks like itโs above the clouds. Youโre not going to eat that one?
ANDREW FITANIDES: Itโs been really lovely. Itโs transformative to me. Thatโs not what I had growing up. When things are harder, thatโs when you need the contact most. Thatโs when I need the contact most, is when Iโm feeling low and if I have, you know, friends I have here will notice when Iโm not feeling well, and so itโs like an instant safety net. I hadnโt thought about that before, that some of my isolation as a kid has translated into this choice now.
HELEN FITANIDES: I donโt know that I thought a lot about community and the importance of community until I tried to picture having a family and what that was going to look like.
ANDREW FITANIDES (SPEAKING TO HIS DAUGHTER IN THE GARDEN): I think thatโs called a wire.
HELEN FITANIDES: One of the many things I love about thinking about June growing up here is that she wonโt just have us as role models. She will have many adults in her life. And when we screw up, she will have aunties and uncles and other grandparents to, like, help her through hard times that maybe weโre not as well equipped to help her through.
JASPER TRAVERS: You know, college, your social life is huge. You move off campus, itโs still huge. Youโre around a bunch of people your age, and then you move into a house somewhere. Itโs a lot harder to make friends, especially not right next to you. And then you hear about cohousing or something like that and you know, youโll know everybody within, you know, like your radius right there, 100 yards and youโre guaranteed to know them.
KATHRYN MCCAMANT: Weโve been convinced that we should buy as big a house as we can afford because itโs a better investment, or thatโs the American dream. But I think people are surprised when they get the American dream, they can afford the American dream, how unsatisfying it can be. Weโre not facing the reality of who America is today. You know,ย itโs hard to find a new single family house thatโs less than 2,000 square feet. But the fastest growing American household is a single person living alone at all ages, at every generation. And the whole world is going this direction. So the demographic issues that Americans are facing are actually worldwide. Weโve really designed, sort of, social connection out of our lives.
OREN DI ON: Iโve definitely experienced, like, isolation, especially during Covid. Most of my friends live out in the woods or thereโs no one for miles. They donโt even see another person until they go to school or work or come into town. I mean, a lot of kids just donโt have any close interactions, even in their home or feel like most of their interactions are fake or just online and donโt really โ donโt really go below the surface.
MARC SCHULZ (CO-DIRECTOR, HARVARD STUDY OF ADULT DEVELOPMENT, THE WORLDโS LONGEST SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF HAPPINESS): Iโve been involved in the Harvard Study of Adult Development now for 20 years and thereโs a really simple conclusion that weโve drawn from all that research. Relationships keep us happier and healthier throughout the lifespan. Cohousing is one kind of extreme example of trying to get people together in an intentional way to build a community. But I think what that makes clear is that weโre at a point where people are beginning to recognize the importance of social connection in their life and theyโre searching for it. Loneliness โย that perception that Iโm alone โย is tied to physical health problems. The actual risk associated with loneliness is on the same order as smoking 15 cigarettes a day or being obese. So this is a major public health problem. But thereโs a lot of attention being put into thinking about solutions. And there are clever ideas happening all around the world.
DRAGANA CUROVIC (PROJECT MANAGER, SรLLBO COHOUSING, HELSINGBORG, SWEDEN): SรคllBo is actually a combination of two words in Swedish, which is sรคllskap, and boende, which means common living. SรคllBo, sรคllskap boende. Thatโs the uniqueness of SรคllBo: that we are not trying to find homogenic demography in the house. We are, on the contrary, trying to find so different people as possible. We wanted to show that even though you would never dream to share or to live nearby people that are so different from you, it can go well and you can have a even more interesting life than that otherwise.
DRAGANA CUROVIC (IN A SรLLBO COHOUSING COMMON AREA): This is the silversmith I was talking about.
PELLE JรNSSON: Iโm a captain, sea captain, yeah. But now Iโm a silversmith.
JOHANNA ADSERSEN: I lived in a student dorm before, then I moved to, like, my own apartment. It was so lonely and so boring. And so I found this place and itโs super, super fun. Always have, like, people around, and so on. Super fun.
JOHANNA ADSERSEN (WORKING ON A PUZZLE WITH A FRIEND): Iโve been sitting with this for, like, three weeks.
FRIEND: Wow. Has anyone helped you out:
JOHANNA ADSERSEN Itโs me and Allona. Allona, she is very good at doing puzzles.
HANNA HOLMQVIST: We met here at SรคllBo and we were neighbors, and then we started hanging out more. I donโt think we would have met if we had not moved to SรคllBo.
KATHRYN MCCAMANT: The oldest communities are now over 30 years old, and weโve seen that they do sustain themselves, that they do attract new people coming in at all different ages. Thereโs about 180 cohousing communities across the United States today. Thereโs growing numbers of cohousing communities in Canada, in England, in the Netherlands and Denmark. They continue to grow.
The number one thing I was after was proving there were people who wanted this. And I feel like thatโs what we have really proven over these last 30 years. So now the discussion is, how can we make it more diverse, more diverse economically, more diverse racially and culturally? Whatโs possible out there?
Itโs not for everybody, but people do live longer when theyโre not isolated. We need to be very deliberate about the relationships we build and invest time in those. Itโs not going to happen without deliberate efforts. Thatโs what we have found out, right? It used to happen naturally. But it doesnโt happen naturally in most places today. If you donโt know who your neighbors are, you donโt have any place to start.
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Loneliness Is on the Rise. Are Closer Neighbors a Solution?
Loneliness is on the rise, and it may be as harmful to health as cigarette smoking, medical experts say. Now some Americans are embracing a collaborative living arrangement called cohousing as a solution.
Even before the Covid pandemic shut down schools, closed businesses and introduced the idea of social distancing, medical experts were seeing an alarming increase in Americans struggling with isolation. The U.S. surgeon general has called this trend an epidemic of loneliness, as harmful to health as smoking cigarettes.
To counteract isolation, some Americans are turning to a living arrangement known as cohousing. The idea originated in Denmark in the 1960s, describing communities of privately owned, single-family houses built around shared outdoor spaces, bringing neighbors closer together.
Kathryn McCamant, a California architect, and Charles Durrett are credited with bringing the concept of cohousing to the United States. They designed the first new-construction cohousing community in the nation, and later developed Nevada City Cohousing.
โWe’re actually creating that space in between, where people run into each other,โ McCamant told Retro Report. โIt really is true that community happens on the pathways.โ
This story was supported by theย Robert Wood Johnson Foundationย and released in collaboration withย Scientific American.
LEARN MORE ABOUR COHOUSING:
“Creating Cohousing: Building Sustainable Communities”ย by Kathryn McCamant and by Charles Durrett
“State-Of-The-Art Cohousing: Lessons Learned from Quimper Village” by Alexandria Levittย and Charles Durrett|
“Cohousing Communities: Designing for High-Functioning Neighborhoods” by Charles Durret with Jingling Yang, Alex Lin, Spencer Nash and Nadthachai Kongkhajornkidsuk
“The Best of Both Worlds: Cohousing’s Promise” Available to streamย here, this film explores cohousing through the eyes of residents.
- Producer: Kit R. Roane
- Co-Producer / Camera: Jeff Bernier
- Co-Producer / Camera: Zachary Stauffer
- Editor: Heru Muharrar
- Production Assistant: Josh Wolf
- Production Assistant: Vidar Holm
- Production Assistant: Kevin Hackenberg
